McCanns
This McCann case is beginning to really bug me. I'm convinced the McCanns are being stitched up and a terrible miscarriage of justice is in danger of taking place.
There are basically 2 scenarios:
1. The McCanns, two doctors, accidentally overdose their daughter with sedatives before dinner with friends. They manage to hide the body and keep the decomposing body hidden for 25 days in a town and country which they do not know well, all the time under the 24/7 eyes of the world's media. This media attention is largely the result of the McCanns' own efforts to keep the case in the public eye. Then after a month, in spite of the breathtaking nerve, ruthlessness and cynicism which they are supposed to have displayed so far, they suddenly forget themselves sufficiently to transport the body in their hire car and leave incriminating evidence in the boot.
2. There is a paedophile living somewhere in the vicinity (and was in fact responsible for the disappearance of another little girl nearby 4 years ago). He kidnaps Madeleine, murders her by overdosing her with sedatives. When the parents do not go away quietly, in order to frame them for her murder, with or without the connivance of the local police (already under investigation for extracting a false confession in the earlier case), the perpetrator plants the evidence in their hire car.
Which of these 2 scenarios is more plausible? That 2 ordinary people suddenly start to display a range of self-contradictory behaviours, or that a criminal performs a crime and covers up his tracks by attempting to incriminate someone else?
There are basically 2 scenarios:
1. The McCanns, two doctors, accidentally overdose their daughter with sedatives before dinner with friends. They manage to hide the body and keep the decomposing body hidden for 25 days in a town and country which they do not know well, all the time under the 24/7 eyes of the world's media. This media attention is largely the result of the McCanns' own efforts to keep the case in the public eye. Then after a month, in spite of the breathtaking nerve, ruthlessness and cynicism which they are supposed to have displayed so far, they suddenly forget themselves sufficiently to transport the body in their hire car and leave incriminating evidence in the boot.
2. There is a paedophile living somewhere in the vicinity (and was in fact responsible for the disappearance of another little girl nearby 4 years ago). He kidnaps Madeleine, murders her by overdosing her with sedatives. When the parents do not go away quietly, in order to frame them for her murder, with or without the connivance of the local police (already under investigation for extracting a false confession in the earlier case), the perpetrator plants the evidence in their hire car.
Which of these 2 scenarios is more plausible? That 2 ordinary people suddenly start to display a range of self-contradictory behaviours, or that a criminal performs a crime and covers up his tracks by attempting to incriminate someone else?
20 Comments:
I couldn't agree more.
The thing that amazes me in all this is the presumption by so very many people that
a) these people didn't love their daughter and killed her
b)even if they didn't actually kill her, it's their fault something happened to her because they weren't at her side 24/7
Here's a newsflash: you have to be *actually* crazy to hurt your children.
I am so *very* thankful the G has made it to the ripe old age of 10. I can only imagine the field day they'd have with *me*!
I had the same thought about the alleged blood in the hired car. But here's a third theory. Someone connected with Ben Afleck's new film Gone Baby Gone did it to get publicity. The film's kidnappee apparently looks very like Madeleine McCann and her real name is Madeline! Here's the link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6992601.stm
I just hope the McCanns were not responsible.
Why does the paedophile murder the girl with sedatives, how does he manage to break into the hire car later without leaving any trace, and how come he just happened to have minute traces of blood and bits of hair readily to hand just in case the McCanns hired a car ready for him to break into and plant evidence in unobserved, and just in time for a forensic examination to take place completely out of the blue? All only likely with the connivance of the police (as you suggest, Phiz).
However, I could believe that the police had created some evidence to get the McCanns off their back, which would not, however, rule out scenario one being the correct one.
I think you should set up a poll.
The smoking bible was an interesting clue. What do you think of that?
If the McCanns are innocent, it's very hurtful to name them as suspects. No one could imagine how they feel ...... losing their daughter plus being blamed for losing their daughter.
Professor Plum, In the Library with Miss Scarlet?
people claiming to be desperately devout is of course not an indication either way as to whether they are capable of terrible crimes against humanity, witness GW Bush.
the actual passage from Samuel2 chap12 vs 15-19 does seem strangely significant though
George Bush is a devout Moron
He never misses an opportunity to "crusade" on the subject to others.
Come judgement day he will ask for a recount in Florida.
Don't you think that would apply to any innocent person who was named as a suspect, not just the manipulative, live by the sword, die by the sword, hoist by their own petard, McCanns, Tine?
There is a very good piece in this week's Spectator about this that you can read online
www.spectator.co.uk
I think it sums it all up very well.
Click on "Magazine" and scroll down...
That's a fine article, Mr. T.
Perhaps I am one of the polarised-opinion holders referred to but I have little sympathy for the McCanns themselves, though I do have some for their loss, regardless of whether their negligence contributed towards it or not.
The McCanns, as medical professionals, doubtless make choices about prioritisation of resources on behalf of their patients every day. They accept when they are dealing with other people’s sorrows that not every case can get the attention the patient thinks it deserves, yet they are willing to manipulate the media in order to prioritise resources away from other crime victims to their own sad, but lost, cause. Where is the consideration for others in this attitude, and how does this fit into the devout Catholicism they are so ready to exploit in their quest for sympathy and more resources? And how do they reconcile their religious beliefs with abandoning their patients?
The McCanns and their (yes, chavvy) relatives family have been ready to abuse and criticize the Portuguese police for their own ends at every turn, while accusing anyone who criticizes them of insensitivity, yet they are now unhappy with the logical result of pushing an investigation which has reached a dead end, namely that they, in the absence of any other credible suspects, are the most credible suspects themselves.
The article writer's point about Dianification is an excellent one.
I don't think anything about the McCanns one way or another - certainly don't think their being middle class doctors means that they are prima facie innocent. I just don't find the scenario plausible that the McCanns would have killed their daughter, then deliberately kept the case in the world's eye for 4 months (instead of sloping off back to Leicestershire and hoping that the world would forget about it), and, in spite of the attention, successfully managed to hide and transport a decomposing body, in a place that was quite unfamiliar to them, over that entire period without anyone noticing.
You are right about the relatives being chavvy, Fumie.
I find it ridiculous to read from a lot of sources that if this had happened to some random, drunken poor chavs, that they would not have received the same attention as the McCanns; when we all know that Gerry and Kate McCann are as chavvy as chavs get. Being a doctor does not buy class.
But I don't think we can blame them for manipulating the media. After all, their four-year-old daughter has gone missing, and possibly raped and murdered. Their Catholicism shouldn't come into it. Catholic or not, they want their daughter back, not to help the hundreds of other victims of other crimes. They can't search for their daughter in a completely altruistic way, can they? I would abandon my patients if my daughter had been abducted in a foreign country.
And whether they are manipulating the media or not does not matter. The Media will be all over them and their campaign whatever they do.
My wife cannot imagine leaving three kids aged 3 and under unattended so far from where you're eating. That doesn't make the Macs guilty, of course - perhaps they're just more casual than we are.
Regarding FBT's point about the implausibility of a scenario in which they accidentally killed their daughter and then deliberately publicise the case, I can see that this might happen. Imagine that you are distraught, but don't want to lose your careers and your twins. Such a campaign would act to deflect attention from you, not least by the certainty that it will result in literally hundreds of leads and sightings for the police to have to follow up. That continues for, say, six months, and then the tearful couple thank the world for their help and announce that they are winding up their campaign to allow them to focus on the needs of their twins. It is possible, I think.
It is possible, Ulaca, but highly unlikely.
I twould take a very calculating couple (possibly slighlty insane) to plan that far ahead in a split second.
"Baby's dead, hon. Let's run into the restaurant, scream she's missing and start to manipulate the media. It will all blow over in six months, no doubt."
Not calculating in my possible, yet unlikely: desperate. And the human mind is a powerful computer that works very fast.
Add 'scenario' after 'unlikely'. I feel that in this case the truth WILL come out one day, so we will be able to eat humble pie or otherwise.
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